Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society The Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society (PERyHS) is a non-profit association dedicated to the preservation of the memory of the Pacific Electric Railway. The goals of the PERYHS are: to preserve and maintain historical documents, visual images.
The Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society (PERYHS) is a non-profit association dedicated to the preservation of the memory of the Pacific Electric Railway and Los Angeles Railway.
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Formed in 1999, the Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society was founded by Jack Finn (above in 1979 at Orange Empire Railway Museum, Perris, California), Walter Abbenseth, Craig Rasmussen and Jed Hughes. Eventually Jeffery Moreau and Michael Patris were added to the board. Sadly, in July of 2006, Jack Finn passed away following a prolonged illness. According to long time friend Alan Weeks, Jack lived very close to the Pacific Electric Railway Glendale Line and it is here where his love of the system began. Also, according to Weeks, they both operated rail cars at the Orange Empire Railway Museum (OERM) for many years. Alan was badge #54 and Jack was badge #74. Jack Finn conducted several interviews of many people who rode on or worked for the Pacific Electric Railway and published eight monographs which contained these interviews and images to enhance the text. Eventually, we would like to reprint those monographs and make them available via this website. Please see our monograph page. Also, according to Alan Weeks, speaking of Jack, "His research and knowledge of the P.E. was quite extraordinary in my opinion. He was a stickler for accuracy. But, in the long run, I will remember Jack for being the kind and caring person who looked after many ill people who had no one else to help them. He did this quietly and without fanfare." Upon Jack's passing, the archives of the Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society were bequeathed to the Mount Lowe Preservation Society, Inc. The goal has been to expand the MLPSI archives to include the PERYHS collection and further enhance the sharing of history, images, text and artifacts of these operations. Also, to further make available the monographs already produced as well as assemble from notes and tapes the monographs that were in the works at the time of Jack's passing. Here is the original Mission Statement for the PERYHS: The Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society (PERYHS) is a non-profit association dedicated to the preservation of the memory of the Pacific Electric Railway. The goals of the PERYHS are: to preserve and maintain historical documents, visual images, oral histories, and historical studies; to make these materials available to the general public via publications (monographs), presentations and displays to non-profit groups and organizations and to assist other non-profit organizations in their efforts to preserve the legacy of the Pacific Electric Railway. Our goal is to keep Jack Finn's dream alive and continue his work for all to enjoy. The Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society will operate under the 501 (c) 3 non-profit educational foundation of the Mount Lowe Preservation Society, Inc. Michael Patris President, MLPSI

Mission: The goals of the PERYHS are: to preserve and maintain historical documents, visual images, oral histories, and historical studies; to make these materials available to the general public via publications (monographs), presentations and displays to non-profit groups and organizations and to assist other non-profit organizations in their efforts to preserve the legacy of the Pacific Electric Railway.

Crown Jewel of the Pacific Electric Railway.  I liked the "wifey" comment.
02/10/2020

Crown Jewel of the Pacific Electric Railway. I liked the "wifey" comment.

Someone Had a Sense of Humor. Alpine Tavern Thanksgiving Ad. (source unknown).

1894 - Construction of the Mount Lowe Railway in the San Gabriel Mountains above Pasadena, CA. That's famed Civil War Ba...
01/31/2020

1894 - Construction of the Mount Lowe Railway in the San Gabriel Mountains above Pasadena, CA. That's famed Civil War Balloonist, Professor Thaddeus S.C. Lowe. Lowe lost control of his railway and it eventually became a part of Henry E. Huntington's Pacific Electric Railway "Red Cars".

Professor Thaddeus S. C. Lowe surveys the construction on the Mount Lowe Railway with binoculars in 1894. http://www.mountlowe.org/mlpsi-collection/photography/thaddeus-lowe-surveys-the-construction-1894/

Ralph Cantos is back with a great piece and images on the traffic nightmare that is Olympic, San Vicente and Fairfax in ...
01/22/2020
PE 950s at Olympic-San Vicente-Fairfax: A traffic nightmare today - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

Ralph Cantos is back with a great piece and images on the traffic nightmare that is Olympic, San Vicente and Fairfax in Los Angeles!

  PE 950s at Olympic-San Vicente-Fairfax: A traffic nightmare today 0 This interesting photo taken around 1936 shows a two-car train of Pacific Electric 950s heading to Santa Monica via Beverly Hills. The small wooden-bodied LARY bus heading east on Olympic Boulevard will make a connection with the...

I want to see this model of the Mount Lowe tavern showing the additions.
01/13/2020

I want to see this model of the Mount Lowe tavern showing the additions.

Model of the Mount Lowe Tavern
at "Starting Anew: Transforming Pasadena, 1890-1930", Pasadena Museum of History thru July 3, 2020. This model is seldom on display. It gives details that are not captured in photos, especially the eastern wing. See it while you can. Photo: Dave Lessig. https://pasadenahistory.org/exhibits/current-exhibition/

Crown Jewel of the Pacific Electric Railway, Mount Lowe Trip.  Round trip from 6th and Main Street Station, Los Angeles ...
01/09/2020

Crown Jewel of the Pacific Electric Railway, Mount Lowe Trip. Round trip from 6th and Main Street Station, Los Angeles was sometimes as low as $1.50.

Alpine Tavern 1916. "Ghost" boy and man probably getting a drink of water that came from Crystal Springs behind the tavern. Crystal Springs water was bottled. Three ladies sit on the bench with their hats. See more: http://www.mountlowe.org/mlpsi-collection/photography/alpine-tavern-1916/

Green Hotel in Pasadena. Ernie Leo Photo, Craig Rasmussen Collectionhttps://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/nor...
01/05/2020
Green Hotel behind Red Car - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

Green Hotel in Pasadena.

Ernie Leo Photo, Craig Rasmussen Collection
https://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/northern-district/green-hotel-behind-red-car/

Pacific Electric no. 1359 makes a late day run heading south down Fair Oaks Avenue, just south of Green Street and the Green Hotel in Pasadena. The park and hotel are still there today, but most of the trees in this shot have been removed. Ernie Leo took this shot and notes it was taken …

Would your grandparents ride to Mount Lowe, the crown jewel of the Pacific Electric Railway system?
01/03/2020

Would your grandparents ride to Mount Lowe, the crown jewel of the Pacific Electric Railway system?

"On the way to Rubio Canyon" postcard. The first leg of the Mount Lowe Railway was a trolley trip from Los Angeles (6th and Main St.), thru Pasadena. Then passengers transferred to the Great Incline (funicular) for a thrilling ride up to Echo Mountain. Once there, they transferred to another electric trolley to Ye Alpine Tavern. Note how everyone dressed up. In those days most people had two outfits: work and Sunday go to Meeting. (1893-1936). http://www.mountlowe.org/mlpsi-collection/postcards/on-the-way-to-rubio-canyon-pasadena-in-the-distance-postcard/

FOUND 8MM PACIFIC ELECTRIC FOOTAGE FROM THE LATE 1940S.From Ralph Cantos:Very interesting footage. It  starts at Macy St...
01/02/2020
Found 8mm Pacific Electric Footage from the late 1940s - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

FOUND 8MM PACIFIC ELECTRIC FOOTAGE FROM THE LATE 1940S.
From Ralph Cantos:
Very interesting footage. It starts at Macy Street Yard and moves east along the Baldwin Park Line.
In the opening scenes, the 306 looks to be in A-1 condition, just out of the paint shop. I would say that 1947- 48 would be the time line of this short segment.
https://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/northern-district/found-8mm-pacific-electric-footage-from-the-late-1940s/

We’re thrilled to share this found footage from none other than Amsterdam, the Netherlands, by Frank M. Wiggers, who like us, shares a passion for anything railroad and mass transit. He recently received a private film (likely 8mm) with Pacific Electric footage, and had it digitized and reached ou...

Merry Christmas from all of us at the Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society.From the Jack Finn collection comes th...
12/22/2019
Merry Christmas from PERYHS - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

Merry Christmas from all of us at the
Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society.
From the Jack Finn collection comes this original, blue-border Ektachrome slide that hasn’t totally faded: Pacific Electric Hollywood car no. 5114 eastbound on Hollywood Blvd. at Whitley Avenue, sometime between 1952 and 1953 (corrected).
https://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/western-district/merry-christmas-from-peryhs/

From the Jack Finn collection comes this original, blue-border Ektachrome slide that hasn’t totally faded: Pacific Electric Hollywood car no. 5114 eastbound on Hollywood Blvd. at Whitley Avenue, sometime between 1952 and 1953 (corrected). Merry Christmas from all of us at the Pacific Electric Rail...

Steve Crise is back with a great new piece at our site, "The Dragons of Long Beach." Check it out!
12/10/2019
The Dragons of Long Beach - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

Steve Crise is back with a great new piece at our site, "The Dragons of Long Beach." Check it out!

By Steve Crise The year: 1921. The place, PE’s Long Beach Station. Dragon 72 (ex-San Jose RR. 133) loads on Ocean Ave at Pine Street. The car, surrounded by Tens on the Los Angeles run, is running on the Seaside Park – Willows Line which at the time offered fifteen minute service. The following ...

Not my find, but I too found a similar piece in the 1970s after a storm on Echo Mountain, Altadena, CA.
12/10/2019
Mount Lowe Preservation Society

Not my find, but I too found a similar piece in the 1970s after a storm on Echo Mountain, Altadena, CA.

A Pacific Electric-emblazoned shard of broken dinner china, discovered in an Echo Mountain dump in the late 1970s by professional writer, historian and collector Caesar J. Milch and sold via eBay to the Mount Lowe Preservation Society Inc. in 2009.

Michael Patris Photo
Mount Lowe Preservation Society Inc. Collectionhttps://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/pacific-electric-artifacts/dinner-plate-remnant-from-echo-mountain/

This picture was taken prior to the last inbound trip from Long Beach due in at 2:55am. Without missing a beat, the rail...
12/07/2019
April 9, 1961: Main Street Station - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

This picture was taken prior to the last inbound trip from Long Beach due in at 2:55am. Without missing a beat, the rail service vanished.
https://www.pacificelectric.org/collections/stephen-dudley-collection/april-9-1961-main-street-station/

The number of people at Main Street Station in Los Angeles continued to grow in the early morning hours of April 9, 1961. A scheduled train to Long Beach (single car barely visible on the left) was set to leave at 2:16am. A special train awaited on the track to the right for what would …

PACIFIC ELECTRIC RAILWAY SIGHT-SEEING TROLLEY TRIPS BROCHURE (1912) + several other brochures.Pacific Electric Railway S...
11/27/2019
Pacific Electric Railway Sight-Seeing Trolley Trips Brochure (1912) - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

PACIFIC ELECTRIC RAILWAY SIGHT-SEEING TROLLEY TRIPS BROCHURE (1912) + several other brochures.

Pacific Electric Railway Sight-Seeing Trolley Trips Brochure circa 1912 (front, above). This brochure describes the Balloon Route, Triangle and Old Mission Trolley Trips which were $1.00 each for a reserved seat and parlor car service.
https://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/pacific-electric-artifacts/pacific-electric-railway-sight-seeing-trolley-trips-brochure-1912/

  Pacific Electric Railway Sight-Seeing Trolley Trips Brochure (1912) 3 Pacific Electric Railway Sight-Seeing Trolley Trips Brochure circa 1912 (front, above). This brochure describes the Balloon Route, Triangle and Old Mission Trolley Trips which were $1.00 each for a reserved seat and parlor car ...

MTA 1521 AND 1527 AT 6TH AND MAINMetropolitan Transit Authority (ex-Pacific Electric) blimps nos. 1521 (bound for San Pe...
11/26/2019
MTA 1521 and 1527 at 6th and Main - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

MTA 1521 AND 1527 AT 6TH AND MAIN
Metropolitan Transit Authority (ex-Pacific Electric) blimps nos. 1521 (bound for San Pedro) and 1527 (bound for Long Beach) idle at 6th and Main in this moody image dated December 7, 1961. --- Bruce Ward Photo
https://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/southern-district/mta-1527-at-6th-and-main/

Metropolitan Transit Authority (ex-Pacific Electric) blimps nos. 1521 (bound for San Pedro) and 1527 (bound for Long Beach) idle at 6th and Main in this moody image dated December 7, 1961. Bruce Ward Photo

Remnants of the Mount Lowe Railway Great Incline, taken December 26, 1947 by Alan Weeks. 14 photos.When I was fifteen I ...
11/24/2019
Alan Weeks at the remains of the Mount Lowe Railway, 1949 - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

Remnants of the Mount Lowe Railway Great Incline, taken December 26, 1947 by Alan Weeks. 14 photos.

When I was fifteen I hiked up this abandoned railway with two friends. Took my trusty old Box Camera. Then again my father and I hiked it in 1949. The pictures are not that great but the historic value is important.

https://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/northern-district/alan-weeks-at-the-remains-of-the-mount-lowe-railway-1949/

When I was fifteen I hiked up this abandoned railway with two friends. Took my trusty old Box Camera. Then again my father and I hiked it in 1949. The pictures are not that great but the historic value is important. Even ten years after abandonment many items were still there. The power house wheel,...

VIDEO: 8MM FILM OF SOUTHERN DISTRICT Margaret Ma was kind enough to share with us her father’s digitized 8mm films of So...
11/19/2019
Video: 8mm Film of Southern District - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

VIDEO: 8MM FILM OF SOUTHERN DISTRICT

Margaret Ma was kind enough to share with us her father’s digitized 8mm films of Southern District action, likely near the end in 1961, depicting MTA blimps in action and 6th and Main Street station shots.

https://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/southern-district/video-8mm-film-of-southern-district/

  Video: 8mm Film of Southern District 3 Margaret Ma was kind enough to share with us her father’s digitized 8mm films of Southern District action, likely near the end in 1961, depicting MTA blimps in action and 6th and Main Street station shots. Video: 8mm Film of Southern District2017-11-202018...

VIDEO: PACIFIC ELECTRIC GLENDALE-BURBANK LINE CROSSING L.A. RIVER ANIMATIONhttps://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-elect...
11/18/2019
Video: Pacific Electric Glendale-Burbank Line Crossing L.A. River Animation - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

VIDEO: PACIFIC ELECTRIC GLENDALE-BURBANK LINE CROSSING L.A. RIVER ANIMATION
https://www.pacificelectric.org/pacific-electric/then-and-now-pacific-electric/video-pacific-electric-glendale-burbank-line-crossing-l-a-river-animation/

Here’s a neat animation created by Eriks Garsvo showing a modern-day view of the old Los Angeles River Pacific Electric bridge pilings, with a Then-and-Now animation re-creation.

Check out Steve Dudley's timed photos documenting abandonment on the Long Beach Line.
11/15/2019
Abandonment Aftermath - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

Check out Steve Dudley's timed photos documenting abandonment on the Long Beach Line.

  Abandonment Aftermath 0 By Stephen Dudley December 1960: In this telephoto view taken in December 1960, a Long Beach local train has paused at Los Cerritos for passengers. The merging of the track in the distance for the approach to the Los Angeles River bridge can be seen. The linemen made sure ...

Green 1543 North of Los Cerritos - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society
11/15/2019
Green 1543 North of Los Cerritos - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

Green 1543 North of Los Cerritos - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

By Stephen Dudley In this view from December 1960, Green car 1543 heads a northbound train just past the Los Cerritos stop and is seen entering the approach to the single track bridge over the Los Angeles River. In the final year, this car seemed to get regular use as it was not only distinct, but ....

Check out Ralph Cantos' short piece on VJ Day on Hollywood Boulevard in August of 1945 - featuring the PE!
11/13/2019
VJ Day on Hollywood Boulevard - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

Check out Ralph Cantos' short piece on VJ Day on Hollywood Boulevard in August of 1945 - featuring the PE!

By Ralph Cantos August 15, 1945, was a great day for the entire world. After years of war, peace had finally had come to planet Earth. There were spontaneous celebrations all over the world. Cities large and small across the globe celebrated in the streets. New York, City, Chicago, San Francisco, an...

11/10/2019
Mount Lowe Preservation Society

Pacific Electric's Mountain Railway. "What Remains" narrated by Michael Patris.

Mount Lowe - What Remains: Luxury hotels, a zoo, and the world's largest spotlight were just a few of the things found along this now-extinct and largely forgotten Southern California mountain railway. Michael Patris, Mount Lowe Preservation Society, President narrates. https://youtu.be/R1P6AaOy6mY

11/07/2019

Michael Patris will be speaking on the Mount Lowe Railway on November 18, 2019, at 6PM in Rolling Hills Estates before the National Society Daughters of the American Revolution.

Here is more info:

Our meetings are held in the ‘Community Room’ of the Peninsula Center Library.
There is some underground parking that can be reached off Silver Spur Road.
There is also some rooftop parking that is accessible off Deep Valley Drive.
(The library sits between these two streets)

The Community Room is on the 3rd floor, very close to the elevators. The room is entered thru 2 glass doors, and our Point Vicente banner will be hanging outside of these doors.

Our social begins at 6:30 pm, and the meeting starts promptly at 7pm. We have a very brief introduction of our meeting, then you will begin your presentation. If you have media to prepare, I usually arrive around 6:15 to get the room ready, so you can arrive then also if that’s easier.

The address is: 701 Silver Spur Road, Rolling Hills Estates, CA, (310) 377-9584
Between Crenshaw and Hawthorne Boulevards.

Ralph Cantos is back with a great short piece featuring a beautiful color image of a LARY PCC.
10/29/2019
LARY 3055 on 5th Street - Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society

Ralph Cantos is back with a great short piece featuring a beautiful color image of a LARY PCC.

By Ralph Cantos While color photographs of LA’s PCCs during their service on the LATL and LAMTA are plentiful, color photos of them in service under the LARY banner are rare. This beautiful color photo shows car no.3055 heading east bound along 5th Street working the 3 line. When they entered serv...

THEN AND NOW: 1051 AT 6TH AND MAIN The past comes into view in this blended image of contemporary 6th and Main Streets i...
10/25/2019
www.pacificelectric.org

THEN AND NOW: 1051 AT 6TH AND MAIN

The past comes into view in this blended image of contemporary 6th and Main Streets in Los Angeles with an exact-location match featuring Pacific Electric 1051 from the Jack Finn Collection.
Contemporary photo by Steve Crise, vintage photo Jack Finn Collection, compositing by Jim Bunte: //www.pacificelectric.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/PERYHS-mainstreet-1051-blended.jpg

Don't miss Michael Patris and his new presentation, "When Rails Ruled: Pacific Electric Red Cars," this coming Monday, O...
10/09/2019

Don't miss Michael Patris and his new presentation, "When Rails Ruled: Pacific Electric Red Cars," this coming Monday, October 14, 2019, in La Verne at Hillcrest Meeting House, at 7PM. Absolutely free and refreshments will be served. See you there!

Found these color photos in the PERHS archives. Quite amazing what was destroyed by fire and the US Forest Service.
10/05/2019
Mount Lowe Preservation Society

Found these color photos in the PERHS archives. Quite amazing what was destroyed by fire and the US Forest Service.

A TRIP TO THE MOUNT LOWE RUINS, JUNE 8, 1958. Stephen Dudley and his late father, Paul Dudley, decided to make a hike of the old Mount Lowe right-of-way and photograph their June 8, 1958, journey. These images are from that trip, and we gratefully thank Steve for sharing them with our readers.
https://www.pacificelectric.org/collections/stephen-dudley-collection/a-trip-to-the-mount-lowe-ruins-june-8-1958/

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Formed in 1999, the Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society was founded by Jack Finn, Walter Abbenseth, Craig Rasmussen and Jed Hughes. Eventually Jeffery Moreau and Michael Patris were added to the board. Sadly, in July of 2006, Jack Finn passed away following a prolonged illness. According to longtime friend Alan Weeks, Jack lived very close to the Pacific Electric Railway Glendale Line and it is here where his love of the system began. Also, according to Weeks, they both operated rail cars at the Orange Empire Railway Museum (OERM) for many years. Alan was badge #54 and Jack was badge #74. Jack Finn conducted several interviews of many people who rode on or worked for the Pacific Electric Railway and published eight monographs which contained these interviews and images to enhance the text. Eventually, we would like to reprint those monographs and make them available via this website. Please see our monograph page. Also, according to Alan Weeks, speaking of Jack, "His research and knowledge of the P.E. was quite extraordinary in my opinion. He was a stickler for accuracy. But, in the long run, I will remember Jack for being the kind and caring person who looked after many ill people who had no one else to help them. He did this quietly and without fanfare." Upon Jack's passing, the archives of the Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society were bequeathed to the Mount Lowe Preservation Society, Inc. The goal has been to expand the MLPSI archives to include the PERYHS collection and further enhance the sharing of history, images, text and artifacts of these operations. Also, to further make available the monographs already produced as well as assemble from notes and tapes the monographs that were in the works at the time of Jack's passing. Here is the original Mission Statement for the PERYHS: The Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society (PERYHS) is a non-profit association dedicated to the preservation of the memory of the Pacific Electric Railway. The goals of the PERYHS are: to preserve and maintain historical documents, visual images, oral histories, and historical studies; to make these materials available to the general public via publications (monographs), presentations and displays to non-profit groups and organizations and to assist other non-profit organizations in their efforts to preserve the legacy of the Pacific Electric Railway. Our goal is to keep Jack Finn's dream alive and continue his work for all to enjoy. The Pacific Electric Railway Historical Society will operate under the 501 (c) 3 non-profit educational foundation of the Mount Lowe Preservation Society, Inc. Michael Patris President, MLPSI

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A quiet November morning on the San Gabriel River as dawn breaks over Pacific Electric's 1907 Puente Largo Bridge. At this hour, you can almost hear the whistle blow as a Red Car approaches, carrying passengers away to exotic Monrovia.
Did all red cars have specific "Pacific Electric Railway" painted on the sides of the cars? I have seen a (b&w) photo of a PE- looking car with "Los Angeles" on the side panel. Was this also a Pacific Electric car?
I have a question please. To my understanding this picture was taken on the Rio Hondo as the trolley cross the river.. I live here in Montebello the Rio Hondo divides Montebello and Pico Rivera.. does anybody know exactly where was this crossing was at I would really appreciate it.. thank you have a nice day
I just watched this movie on the Pacific Electric and LA Railway. Really nicely put together from CSP Movies!
My great great grandfather Alexander " Bud" Blanton and two of his sons: Carl C. Blanton, and Ernest "Ike" Blanton worked for Pacific Electric Railway from about 1916 thru the 1940's.
I took this picture last year it's on the corner of Whittier boulevard and Indiana st in East Los Angeles.. clearly you could still see the rails that are under the pavement.. I believe it was the r line that ran down Whittier boulevard to downtown Los Angeles.. can somebody please confirm this I might be wrong..
Ferrocarril Urquiza .buenos aires
Tilton's Trolley Trips advertising postcard.
Where on the internet might I find a full roster of PE and LAMTA equipment? Thx. D
Music to my ears! Wigwags and trombone whistles. Let the orchestra play!!! OERM today...
New to this group. but an OERM member for years... I'm sure many probably know about this but Highway Patrol, season 3, episode 3, Temptation, available on YouTube, some shots of PE freight motors and I assume somewhere on the Santa Monica line.
This is a photo of my grandfather (far right) who played baseball for the P.E.R.Y. Trainmen. The round insignia says Pacific Electric. I assumed that this picture was taken in New Mexico or Arizona. To my knowledge my grandfather never lived in Los Angeles. Can someone tell me if P.E. was also in other states? My grandfather finished career as a conductor for the Santa Fe Railroad out of Winslow, Arizona.