Friends of Baguley. HALL

Friends of Baguley. HALL Our beautiful old hall is the City of Manchester'oldest substantially unchanged building. The "spere and truss' constructed Great Hall dates from 1320.
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BAGULEY HALL Built in 1320 by Sir William De Baggelegh - a Knight of the Realm, landowner and owner of the Cheshire Salt Workings. Our group has been formed to support the new owners of Baguley Hall and to lobby for the full repair, restoration and community use of this remarkable survival of a medieval hall manor.

Dear Friends,As you are probably aware I have been somewhat absent from the group over the last few weeks.I had vascular...
12/05/2019
Baguley Hall Trust

Dear Friends,

As you are probably aware I have been somewhat absent from the group over the last few weeks.

I had vascular related oedema in my lower legs and became quite ill. I was admitted to hospital and had an operation which necessitated a long hospital stay and recuperating at home.

I had to lie flat on my back for the last two weeks thus making my internet access limited, Also I couldn't get to the phone when people were calling - Particular apologies to you Peter and Libby I will call you both later if that's ok.

I am back now and will be giving the group my full attention from now on.

I will post a copy of this email on the page as well.

Also, please find attached the roles and responsibilities brief that I sent out to you, just wanted to make sure that you both have it.

Has anyone checked the new blog site yet? It's a fairly simple affair and I am trying to get to grips with it.

The address is

www.baguleyhallprotect.wordpress.com

Kind regards,

Mat Hopkins
Chair, Friends of Baguley Hall
07342 129016

Faith in Baguley, Faith in Baguley Hall

04/05/2019

The Friends of Baguley Hall meeting that was planned for May the 9th will have to be postponed for a couple of weeks. Details for the new date will be posted in the next few days.

We are very busy behind the scenes forming a committee and have some exceptional people on board so far.

In the meantime if anyone wants to join the group or volunteer to be on the committee drop us a message.

Regards Libby

Here's an updated version of the history of the Hall, the historical background coupled with our Prospectus to form one ...
06/04/2019
Untitled document

Here's an updated version of the history of the Hall, the historical background coupled with our Prospectus to form one all encompassing brief:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xIZp6Il74M6qdNZMlmKwD6GSdKQjc_DR1HgFenWXQBA/edit?usp=drivesdk

Manchester's Hidden Gem BAGULEY HALL By Mathew Hopkins Introduction The Hall and it's Predecessors Baguley Hall is an early medieval manor house situated in the ancient township of Baguley which now lies within the garden suburb of Wythenshawe in the City of Manchester. Built in three distinc...

Here's an updated version of the History of the hall, the historical background, coupled with our Prospectus to form one...
06/04/2019
Untitled document

Here's an updated version of the History of the hall, the historical background, coupled with our Prospectus to form one all encompassing brief:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xIZp6Il74M6qdNZMlmKwD6GSdKQjc_DR1HgFenWXQBA/edit?usp=drivesdk

Manchester's Hidden Gem BAGULEY HALL By Mathew Hopkins Introduction The Hall and it's Predecessors Baguley Hall is an early medieval manor house situated in the ancient township of Baguley which now lies within the garden suburb of Wythenshawe in the City of Manchester. Built in three distinc...

29/03/2019

Hello Friends,

Out of hospital and waddling about like a guddun! I'm meeting with the people from Elizabeth Gaskell's House Friends group and also from Victoria Baths to see how they went about their campaigns, They obviously did a lot right as they got £zillions from the HLF and other sources.

Will let you know soon when next meeting is!

Regards,

Mat

23/03/2019

Dear Friends,

I am in hospital at the moment so was not able to attend the meeting. FOBH Group has existed Online since 2012 when I started this page and since 2009 on Twitter.

I have organised 5 tours of the Hall and was about get the group off the ground in 2016 when I became ill and everything was put on hold until late last year when I started to get the group off the ground again.

Things are moving quickly!

As for Libby, there is no conflict of interest as although the 2 halls have many connections they are entirely different propositions. Baguley Hall is 300 years older than Wythenshawe Hall and the site has been a place of habitation for 4,000 years!

There's even a Bronze Aged barrow which is also a Scheduled Ancient Monument but has been scandalously built over and now lies under someone's back garden 50 metres behind the Hall.

Anyway, Libby is greatly experienced and has done a lot of research into the Tatton family (owners of the Hall until the mid 20th century) and I need the help!

We also have Peter Harrop onboard who is just as keen and has great experience of Project management.

All the best,

Mat Hopkins
Chair, FOBH

21/03/2019

I just wanted to thank everyone who attended the second meeting for Friends of Baguley Hall.

Once again we had some very positive input and discussed setting up the committee and allocating roles. I agreed to become Vice Chair to assist Mat in his position. We are looking for people who want to be involved with a long term project to bring Baguley Hall back into public use. We don't necessarily need you to commit lots of time, just plenty of enthusiasm. If you are interested in getting involved in any way, (not just specific committee roles) please drop up as message. Either Mat or myself will get back to you.

For the people who gave their details this evening, I will be in touch over the next few days. Thankyou again for your interest!!

Regards Libby

18/03/2019

Dear Friends,

Just a reminder about the Friends of Baguley Hall stakeholders meeting, this Thursday, 21 March 7pm Baguley Resource Centre, Hall Lane.

We need to keep up interest and momentum going forward so please attend if you feel you can contribute to getting our beautiful old hall restored and open for Community and Academic use.

Our past informs our future and Baguley Hall has a very interesting, not to say, long story to tell!

All are welcome, please come along, We'd be very pleased to see you!

Regards,

Mat Hopkins
Chair, FOBH

Wonderful drawing of Baguley Hall by local professional artist Colin G Piggott, Many thanks Colin!
28/02/2019

Wonderful drawing of Baguley Hall by local professional artist Colin G Piggott, Many thanks Colin!

Great turnout for the meeting tonight. Everyone's enthusiasm to see Baguley Hall opened up was a joy to see!We now have ...
21/02/2019

Great turnout for the meeting tonight. Everyone's enthusiasm to see Baguley Hall opened up was a joy to see!

We now have a core group of people who can take the Friends group forward to ensure Baguley and Manchester has an historic gem that it can be proud of.

March 21st has been pencilled in for the next meeting and in the meantime FOBH members will discuss job allocations going forward.

Things are starting to move!

Once again, Many thanks..

Regards,

Mat
(Sorry about the blurred photo Mike!)

Special thanks to all who attended from near and far

Here's a link to the updated Friends of Baguley Hall prospectus: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vfueC-0tKFi4QZtRVS0...
21/02/2019
FRIENDS OF BAGULEY HALL

Here's a link to the updated Friends of Baguley Hall prospectus:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1vfueC-0tKFi4QZtRVS0ynqLFfyWHNmPqu8IBeMDy-BY/edit?usp=drivesdk

Regards

Mat

FRIENDS OF BAGULEY HALL Above. The Great Hall of Baguley Hall, this is the earliest surviving intact great hall of spere and truss construction in the country, built 1320 Some Background Information As you are no doubt aware Baguley Hall has, for a number of years, been mired in red-tape and...

07/02/2019

Dear Friends,

Here are some directions to the Stakeholder's Meeting on Thursday 21 February, 7pm at Baguley Resource Centre next to Baguley Hall.

METROLINK

Leave Tram at the Martinscroft stop,walk down Aberford Rd (part that runs next to St Martins parish hall cross over Bowland Rd and take 1st left onto Hall Lane. 300yds on your right cross over at the Funeral Directors and you're there.

BUS

101 from Piccadilly ask driver to let you off at 1st stop on Floatshall Rd double back on yourself and take 1st right onto Hall Lane 200yds up you will pass Hall and Baguley Resource Centre is next door Bus is every 15mins. Journey time approx 35mins but allow a little longer considering time of day.

ROAD FROM CITY CENTRE

Princess Parkway right onto A560 (follow signs for Hospital and Baguley. Left at 1st lights onto Hall Lane 600 yds up Resource Centre entrance is on left opp Spar and Funeral Directors.

ROAD FROM SALE/ALTRINCHAM

Past Tesco at Baguley on A560 take right at 3rd set of lights and as above.

Hope this helps and hope you can all be there.
Dr Ashton and myself will publish a draft agenda in the next week or so...

Regards,

Mat Hopkins
Friends of Baguley Hall

01/02/2019

Dear Friends,

I would like to thank those who have said they are going to the Key Stakeholders neeting on Thursday 21 Febrjuary.

I would also appeal to those who've said they're interested to please attend because we need as big a show of support as possible to convince English Heritage that we have the support to see the reopening of Baguley Hall and its use as a Community Hub.

The Hall has been shut for nearly 70 years and personally speaking, I think it is heartbreaking that such a beautiful and historic building should have lain empty for so long when it could be used for so much good for our community.

This upcoming meeting is probably one of the best chances we'll ever have of showing what the hall means to us now and for our future. If we can get it opened up and in use now it will be a benefit for your children and grandchildren and whilst we are always looking forward we need a link to our roots and our past.

Baguley Hall is that link and it can become our Icon of regeneration.

So please come along and show them what it means to you!

I hope to see you all there in 3 weeks

Regards,

Mat

27/01/2019

Many thanks for the excellent response to the forthcoming meeting so far. I would urge that those who are 'interested' please come along. All opinions are equally valid and deserve to be heard! Also, please could everyone share the event or pass on the word.

And at long last we've hit 700 likes!

Regards,

Mat Hopkins
Friends of Baguley Hall

24/12/2018

Dear Friends,

Here's some Christmas cheer regarding our Hall. I was contacted by Dr.Jenna Ashton of Manchester University a short while ago after I sent out a "round robin" to all those who had been trying to get all heads together a few years back to let them know I was back on the case.

Jenna, who if you read her biog on the following links,you will see has vast experience in the public Heritage field has agreed to come on board and we swapped ideas and she has
formulated the proposal below.

A meeting to put this group on a more Concrete (or real and not just online) footing will be called soon in the new year.

I would particularly like to thank Peter Harrop of Baguley Conservative group who will facilitate this. We have had much support from our Labour councillors and our MP Mike Kane as well as Professor Michael Wood. All shades of the political spectrum want Baguley Hall back in use and maximum impact for the residents of Wythenshawe.

English Heritage and Historic England have responded positively too so let's all keep our fingers crossed that at last we will see some serious movement in the New Year.

below you'll see a selection of recent email exchanges.

I hope you have a lovely day tomorrow and I hope we have a sea change for Baguley Hall in 2019!

All the best

Mat Hopkins
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From: Mathew Hopkins [[email protected]]
Sent: 17 December 2018 17:58
To: Jenna Ashton
Subject: Re: FW: Baguley Hall

Very positive. At least you've not been ignored. Btw Jenna.

So I'm not too far away from you perhaps if at some point soon we can meet, possibly in the New Year?

Anyway have a Great Christmas and a happy New year!

Mat H

On 17 Dec 2018
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From: Jenna Ashton
Sent: 17 December 2018 17:50
To: Allison, Elizabeth
Cc: Stevens, John; Smith, Charles
Subject: RE: Baguley Hall

Hello Elizabeth

Thanks so much for your email. I'm awaiting a new phone for my office (!) but you can catch me on my mobile: I'll be available on Weds between 9am-12pm if you have any time then.

All best wishes

Jenna

Dr Jenna C. Ashton

Lecturer and Programme Director, Heritage Studies;
Institute for Cultural Practices;
Mansfield Cooper Building, 3.19
School of Arts, Languages and Cultures
The University of Manchester

Equality & Diversity rep, Art History and Cultural Practices

t: @heritagemcr
w: www.jcashton.com

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From: Allison, Elizabeth [[email protected]]
Sent: 17 December 2018 15:20
To: Jenna Ashton
Cc: Stevens, John; Smith, Charles
Subject: Baguley Hall

Dear Jenna

I was hoping to speak to you but then found I had no contact number so hence the email.

The reason for my call and now email was in response to yours below sent to my colleague Charles Smith in HE. To introduce myself, I work for English Heritage and Baguley Hall has recently come under my remit. I was very interested to read your proposal for the Hall. As you are aware, English Heritage currently has responsibility for managing the property and is looking at options for securing a sustainable end use for the site. We have recently appointed a local commercial agent to give us advice on planning, marketability, end users and essential works.

We expect to have this report by mid-January after which we could meet and have a discussion with you and other interested local stakeholders. I will be in touch in the New Year.

Kind regards

Elizabeth

Elizabeth Allison M.R.I.C.S | Portfolio Surveyor (West)

English Heritage
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From: Jenna Ashton [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 30 November 2018 10:30
To: Smith, Charles; [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]; Michael Wood
Subject: Hello! re. Baguley Hall
Importance: High

Dear all

As emails are re circulating re. Baguley Hall, I thought it best to introduce myself, and my interest in the Hall with regards to teaching, research, communities and urban heritage.

I have been chatting with Mat Hopkins (Friends of Baguley) already, and Charles we have spoken separately but not specifically about Baguely, and hello Mike Kane - we have not yet met, and hello Mike Wood, we have not yet worked together!

I am a Lecturer and MA Programme Director in Heritage Studies, at the University of Manchester, based in the Institute for Cultural Practices - alongside my colleagues who teach on arts and heritage management and policy, and museum and gallery studies.

The Hall offers an amazing opportunity, but I am also aware of its huge challenges in terms of the viability of its actual use : It's Grade 1* and a Scheduled Ancient Monument; it currently lacks plaster on the walls, and it would have to be lime plaster with horse hair. Also there's no flooring on the ground floor. It's not a huge space, and there is a need for creative solutions to provide amenities such as electricity etc.
It's certainly not a space that a profit based business would likely consider.
So, before further monies are spent on marketing the building for use, I have a proposal I'd like to develop with Historic England, Friends of Baguley and local communities - for the Hall to act as a live heritage educational asset - specifically connected to the Heritage Studies programme at the University. There is increasing pressure on historic buildings nationally to prove their relevance and value, and for Baguley this could be a very interesting and exciting option as a "live" space:
An outline of my thoughts:
- Co-produce plans for a “Heritage Hub”, delivering a training programme around heritage management, conservation, interpretation, engagement, tourism, fundraising and enterprise and supporting the local community with heritage focused research activities, production and outputs.

- On-site active learning and training for local community members wishing to up-skill around the management, creation, conservation and communication of tangible and intangible cultural heritage.

- Supporting the education and employability ambitions for the area, and general improved wellbeing from continuing adult education.

- Using heritage as a basis for engaging hard to reach communities in the national agendas and benefits of the creative industries.

- Delivering on the social responsibility commitments of the University, and bringing together experts in the field of heritage with hard to reach young people, people desiring CPD or up-skilling for employability, and socially isolated individuals.

- Co-developed in collaboration with other Wythenshawe, Manchester and national arts and heritage organisations such as Historic England, City of Trees, Belle Vue Productions, Women’s Archive North, All Our Stories, National Trust, RHS, Historic England, John Rylands Library, Whitworth Art Gallery, Manchester Museum, Archives+, Workers Education Association, Media City etc etc.

- Working with and mentoring the Community Engagement & Volunteer Coordinator

- Creation of a community archive and collection

- Development and delivery of related exhibitions activities

- Student support through the placement scheme and teaching projects

- Design a research programme around the site
Let me know your thoughts on this and whether we should get a date in the diary to discuss further!
All best wishes
Jenna

Dr Jenna C. Ashton

Lecturer and Programme Director, Heritage Studies;
Institute for Cultural Practices;
Mansfield Cooper Building, 3.19
School of Arts, Languages and Cultures
The University of Manchester

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